Nu inteleg ce cauta aici „amd-ul meu e mai bun ca intel-ul tau”.

2hacku si savantu sa se abtina de la afirmatii fara rost.

Pana un alta e sticky despre prescott nu despre altceva.

Imi place de voi ca imi confirmati inclinarea clara pe panta amd.

Nimeni nu e incantat de acest nou procesor, ca si cum nu ar fi bun de nimic. Daca ma uit la celalt sticky despre amd pe 64 biti vad numai persoane multumite.Si-a cumparat vreo careva unul de cand a aparut?

Sunt doua stepping-uri de prescott, una cu mai multe stagii si una mai rapida decat varinat northwood, cu mai putine.

Cel mai nou stepping este pentru socket 478 si nu va apare in versiuni mai mult de 3.4GHz.

Celalalt o idee mai lent decat northwood, are mai multe stagii si permite o frecventa mult mai ridicata (pana la 5-6GHz). Practic aceasta a fost ideea de a mari nr de stagii, pentru a putea produce frecvente mai ridicate.

Eu zic ca e un procesor excelent, mai ales ca acum la inceput pretul lui este rezonabil. Cate procesoare de clasa lui au avut la intrarea pe piata asa pret? Chiar si la noi in tara pretul anuntat este unul foarte bun.

Daca facem o comparatie pret – ce ofera eu zic ca e o investitie buna.

Mai ales peste cateva luni cand va fi si mai ieftin si o versiune mai bine definita.

1 out of 3 people who start smoking will eventually die. The other two apparently become immortal.

Conform XBit Labs, data de lansare oficiala a procesoarelor Intel Prescott este 2 februarie. Astfel, dupa amanarea lansarii din acest an, vine si amanarea lansarii din luna ianuarie, fapt ce vine sa sustina speculatiile conform carora Intel are probleme cu procesul tehnologic care sta la baza noilor procesoare.

Preturile procesoarelor de la Intel, in momentul lansarii Prescott vor fi urmatoarele: 999$ pentru Pentium 4 EE la 3,4GHz, 417$ pentru Pentium 4 la 3,4GHz, 417$ pentru Prescott la 3,4GHz, 278$ pentru Prescott la 3,2GHz, 218$ pentru Prescott la 3GHz si 178$ pentru Prescott la 2,8GHz. Tot pe 2 februarie va fi anuntat si Prescott 2.80A cu o magistrala de doar 533MHz si fara suport pentru HyperThreading, al carui pret va fi de 163$.

Cam asa ceva. De obicei pretul la procesoare scade o data cu intrarea pe piata a unor modele mai noi si/sau cu o frecventa de lucru mai ridicata, preturile mai pot sa scada si de sarbatori dar acuma nu este cazul.

Don’t piss me off. i’m running out of places to hide the bodies.

Am atasat preturile cu care vor fi lansate viitoarele cpu-uri Intel (preluate de pe .

Concluziile sunt in aceeasi nota mai peste tot. Cei de la Anandtech au sintetizat bine situatia actuala:

The performance of Prescott today is nothing to write home about, and given the extensive lengthening of the pipeline it?s honestly a surprise that we?re not castrating Intel for performance at this point. Prescott is however a promise of performance to come; much like the Willamette and even Northwood cores were relatively unimpressive at first, they blossomed into much sought-after CPUs like the Pentium 4 2.4C. The move to 90nm and a longer pipeline will undoubtedly mean more fun for the overclocking community, especially once production ramps up on Prescott.

Just as was the case with the very first Pentium 4s, Prescott needs higher clock speeds to spread its wings – our data on the previous page begins to confirm this. To put it bluntly: Prescott becomes interesting after 3.6GHz; in other words, after it has completely left Northwood?s clock speeds behind.

Ultima oara modificat de pe 01 Feb 2004 23:49, modificat de 6 ori in total.

Cei de la Accelenation.com analizeaza in detaliu sporul de performanta rezultat in urma activarii HT-ului la Prescott (comparativ cu Northwood) in cadrul articolului: .

Si cei de la inquirer spun: atentie la iepurele din palaria Intel.

Sizzling hot is how we?d described that, as normally a processor temperature of over 60 degrees Celsius isn?t something we?d recommend. We then proceeded to see how the Prescott fared with a little overclocking and we quickly found out that at a mere 5% overclock the temperature would soon be touching upon 70 degrees Celsius, too hot to our liking. Fitting a different cooler, in this case an Akasa King Copper, which basically is a massive, fine finned, copper heatsink, didn?t really improve things much. The resulting temperatures, with the selectable fan speed at maximum, were about 5 degrees lower. Nevertheless we managed to clock it to a maximum of 3.75GHz at default core voltage and temperatures approaching 70 degrees Celsius. It could go a little further, with a bump in core voltage by 0.1-volts we managed to touch 3.8GHz, but quickly shut the system down as the temperature was at 171 degrees Fahrenheit, or 77 degrees Celsius in a matter of minutes. That, by our judgment, is nearing supernova temperatures and doesn?t show much headroom for current Prescott processors.

Intel are probleme destul de serioase cu producerea actualului stepping, ca atare, se speculeaza ca in foarte scurt timp vor aparea procesoare Prescott cu steppingul D-0 (conform celor de la ).

It is not absolutely clear what is actually negative about Intel?s new CPUs, but keeping in mind that Intel?s another 90nm processor code-named Dothan designed by the company?s developers in Israel and that has nothing to do with Prescott is also postponed, it is logical to suggest that there are fabrication technology or material-related issues. The issues presumably affect yields, ability to increase core-clock and heat dissipation/power consumption of the products.

According to Intel?s statement to partners, samples of the first D-0 stepping CPUs will be available on February 27, 2004, while qualification should be completed by April 23, 2004. Commercial chips based on the improved core will ship on the 7th of May. CPUID of the post-conversed CPUs will change from 0F33h to 0F34h, but the chips will remain pin-to-pin compatible.

Probabil ca ar fi o idee buna sa asteptati noul stepping… (daca va doriti neaparat un Prescott)…

Un articol interesant despre Prescott puteti citi la . Am atasat la reply un screenshot cu rezultatele lui Prescott (comparativ cu Northwood – cele 2 cpu-uri tactate la 3,2 GHz).

De asemenea, cei de la au facut o scurta comparatie intre procesoarele Intel de 3,2 GHz (E – Prescott, C – Northwood si EE – Extreme Edition). O observatie interesanta, care aduce in discutie viitoarele optimizari pentru intructiunile SSE3, de care Prescott beneficiaza:

The areas that most surprised us were Media Encoding and Workstation Performance. We expected P4EE to lead in these benchmarks, but instead, Prescott was the top performer. Intel tells us that Divx 5.1.1 provides support for new SSE3 instructions, and at least in our configuration with an XMpeg 5 front end, Prescott leads in Media Encoding. Other Media Encoding benchmarks that use older codecs have been showing Prescott about the same as Northwood in encoding tests. Workstation Performance was generally dominated by Prescott, so those applications that depend on the types of operations tested in SPECviewperf will perform best with the Prescott 3.2E. The SPECviewperf 7.1.1 benchmarks were repeated on a VIA PT880 motherboard with all three 3.2 processors, and Prescott again dominated these benches, providing the top performance in all the 7.1.1 suite including UGS.

Momentan, pe piata din Romania, nu prea putem gasi asa ceva. Doar in oferta Flamingo apare Prescott, la urmatoarele preturi:

Daca auziti de o oferta mai buna pentru aceste procesoare, va rog sa postati.

se pare ca desi sunt pe 0.09 microni, procesoarele Prescott au MARI probleme cu temperaturile.

1 out of 3 people who start smoking will eventually die. The other two apparently become immortal.

Thermaltake prezinta pe site-ul lor noile coolere pt viitorul Prescott pe Socket T. Informatii si .

Citeste articolul pe: XtremPC

O avanpremiera oarecum cenusie pentru gigantul Intel (se pare ca sunt multe teste in care noua generatie de procesoare (Prescott) iese in urma generatiei vechi (Northwood) – la aceeasi frecventa de lucru (pipeline-ul cu mai multe stagii isi spune cuvantul)):

Nu inteleg ce cauta aici „amd-ul meu e mai bun ca intel-ul tau”.

2hacku si savantu sa se abtina de la afirmatii fara rost.

Pana un alta e sticky despre prescott nu despre altceva.

Imi place de voi ca imi confirmati inclinarea clara pe panta amd.

Nimeni nu e incantat de acest nou procesor, ca si cum nu ar fi bun de nimic. Daca ma uit la celalt sticky despre amd pe 64 biti vad numai persoane multumite.Si-a cumparat vreo careva unul de cand a aparut?

Sunt doua stepping-uri de prescott, una cu mai multe stagii si una mai rapida decat varinat northwood, cu mai putine.

Cel mai nou stepping este pentru socket 478 si nu va apare in versiuni mai mult de 3.4GHz.

Celalalt o idee mai lent decat northwood, are mai multe stagii si permite o frecventa mult mai ridicata (pana la 5-6GHz). Practic aceasta a fost ideea de a mari nr de stagii, pentru a putea produce frecvente mai ridicate.

Eu zic ca e un procesor excelent, mai ales ca acum la inceput pretul lui este rezonabil. Cate procesoare de clasa lui au avut la intrarea pe piata asa pret? Chiar si la noi in tara pretul anuntat este unul foarte bun.

Daca facem o comparatie pret – ce ofera eu zic ca e o investitie buna.

Mai ales peste cateva luni cand va fi si mai ieftin si o versiune mai bine definita.

1 out of 3 people who start smoking will eventually die. The other two apparently become immortal.

Conform XBit Labs, data de lansare oficiala a procesoarelor Intel Prescott este 2 februarie. Astfel, dupa amanarea lansarii din acest an, vine si amanarea lansarii din luna ianuarie, fapt ce vine sa sustina speculatiile conform carora Intel are probleme cu procesul tehnologic care sta la baza noilor procesoare.

Preturile procesoarelor de la Intel, in momentul lansarii Prescott vor fi urmatoarele: 999$ pentru Pentium 4 EE la 3,4GHz, 417$ pentru Pentium 4 la 3,4GHz, 417$ pentru Prescott la 3,4GHz, 278$ pentru Prescott la 3,2GHz, 218$ pentru Prescott la 3GHz si 178$ pentru Prescott la 2,8GHz. Tot pe 2 februarie va fi anuntat si Prescott 2.80A cu o magistrala de doar 533MHz si fara suport pentru HyperThreading, al carui pret va fi de 163$.

Cam asa ceva. De obicei pretul la procesoare scade o data cu intrarea pe piata a unor modele mai noi si/sau cu o frecventa de lucru mai ridicata, preturile mai pot sa scada si de sarbatori dar acuma nu este cazul.

Don’t piss me off. i’m running out of places to hide the bodies.

Am atasat preturile cu care vor fi lansate viitoarele cpu-uri Intel (preluate de pe .

Concluziile sunt in aceeasi nota mai peste tot. Cei de la Anandtech au sintetizat bine situatia actuala:

The performance of Prescott today is nothing to write home about, and given the extensive lengthening of the pipeline it?s honestly a surprise that we?re not castrating Intel for performance at this point. Prescott is however a promise of performance to come; much like the Willamette and even Northwood cores were relatively unimpressive at first, they blossomed into much sought-after CPUs like the Pentium 4 2.4C. The move to 90nm and a longer pipeline will undoubtedly mean more fun for the overclocking community, especially once production ramps up on Prescott.

Just as was the case with the very first Pentium 4s, Prescott needs higher clock speeds to spread its wings – our data on the previous page begins to confirm this. To put it bluntly: Prescott becomes interesting after 3.6GHz; in other words, after it has completely left Northwood?s clock speeds behind.

Ultima oara modificat de pe 01 Feb 2004 23:49, modificat de 6 ori in total.

Cei de la Accelenation.com analizeaza in detaliu sporul de performanta rezultat in urma activarii HT-ului la Prescott (comparativ cu Northwood) in cadrul articolului: .

Si cei de la inquirer spun: atentie la iepurele din palaria Intel.

Sizzling hot is how we?d described that, as normally a processor temperature of over 60 degrees Celsius isn?t something we?d recommend. We then proceeded to see how the Prescott fared with a little overclocking and we quickly found out that at a mere 5% overclock the temperature would soon be touching upon 70 degrees Celsius, too hot to our liking. Fitting a different cooler, in this case an Akasa King Copper, which basically is a massive, fine finned, copper heatsink, didn?t really improve things much. The resulting temperatures, with the selectable fan speed at maximum, were about 5 degrees lower. Nevertheless we managed to clock it to a maximum of 3.75GHz at default core voltage and temperatures approaching 70 degrees Celsius. It could go a little further, with a bump in core voltage by 0.1-volts we managed to touch 3.8GHz, but quickly shut the system down as the temperature was at 171 degrees Fahrenheit, or 77 degrees Celsius in a matter of minutes. That, by our judgment, is nearing supernova temperatures and doesn?t show much headroom for current Prescott processors.

Intel are probleme destul de serioase cu producerea actualului stepping, ca atare, se speculeaza ca in foarte scurt timp vor aparea procesoare Prescott cu steppingul D-0 (conform celor de la ).

It is not absolutely clear what is actually negative about Intel?s new CPUs, but keeping in mind that Intel?s another 90nm processor code-named Dothan designed by the company?s developers in Israel and that has nothing to do with Prescott is also postponed, it is logical to suggest that there are fabrication technology or material-related issues. The issues presumably affect yields, ability to increase core-clock and heat dissipation/power consumption of the products.

According to Intel?s statement to partners, samples of the first D-0 stepping CPUs will be available on February 27, 2004, while qualification should be completed by April 23, 2004. Commercial chips based on the improved core will ship on the 7th of May. CPUID of the post-conversed CPUs will change from 0F33h to 0F34h, but the chips will remain pin-to-pin compatible.

Probabil ca ar fi o idee buna sa asteptati noul stepping… (daca va doriti neaparat un Prescott)…

Un articol interesant despre Prescott puteti citi la . Am atasat la reply un screenshot cu rezultatele lui Prescott (comparativ cu Northwood – cele 2 cpu-uri tactate la 3,2 GHz).

De asemenea, cei de la au facut o scurta comparatie intre procesoarele Intel de 3,2 GHz (E – Prescott, C – Northwood si EE – Extreme Edition). O observatie interesanta, care aduce in discutie viitoarele optimizari pentru intructiunile SSE3, de care Prescott beneficiaza:

The areas that most surprised us were Media Encoding and Workstation Performance. We expected P4EE to lead in these benchmarks, but instead, Prescott was the top performer. Intel tells us that Divx 5.1.1 provides support for new SSE3 instructions, and at least in our configuration with an XMpeg 5 front end, Prescott leads in Media Encoding. Other Media Encoding benchmarks that use older codecs have been showing Prescott about the same as Northwood in encoding tests. Workstation Performance was generally dominated by Prescott, so those applications that depend on the types of operations tested in SPECviewperf will perform best with the Prescott 3.2E. The SPECviewperf 7.1.1 benchmarks were repeated on a VIA PT880 motherboard with all three 3.2 processors, and Prescott again dominated these benches, providing the top performance in all the 7.1.1 suite including UGS.

Momentan, pe piata din Romania, nu prea putem gasi asa ceva. Doar in oferta Flamingo apare Prescott, la urmatoarele preturi:

Daca auziti de o oferta mai buna pentru aceste procesoare, va rog sa postati.

se pare ca desi sunt pe 0.09 microni, procesoarele Prescott au MARI probleme cu temperaturile.

1 out of 3 people who start smoking will eventually die. The other two apparently become immortal.

Thermaltake prezinta pe site-ul lor noile coolere pt viitorul Prescott pe Socket T. Informatii si .

Citeste articolul pe: XtremPC

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